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Shock Trivia

By Randy Norian

Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:36:12 EDT Thanks to some great emails from helpful listers, brain twisting conversations with loquatious Brits, and a fair bit of introspection lately, I have some new insights on what is going on inside these little shock absorber thingies. Some of this may be old news, some of it is just theory, some of it is fact- read on! here is a tidbit to remember: when I was hanging out all day at computrack, they mentioned an odd thing. Turning up the compression damping knob will increase your rebound damping, at some point. They showed me on MY bike, and it was a very noticeable effect. I have a Fox shock. I will come back to that later! But remember that. I just rebuilt the shock on my ninja. That poor bike is the catalyst for half of my RG-related shenanigans. The ninja shock has a 40mm shock body, and is a very ordinary modern unit with remote reservoir w/ gas bladder and compression damping on the reservoir body. The piston is 14mm diameter. The volume of the inflated gas bladder is approximately 100cc. The gas bladder is pressurized to 200 psi. basics we all know- on compression, oil is valved through the shock 'cartridge' and flow is metered by the valving stack. On rebound, the opposite occurs with the rebound damping stack. So what's up with the compression adjuster on the reservoir body? Richard K. astutely pointed out that one reason the reservoir is there to provide someplace for the oil to go when it is displaced by the *shaft* of the shock, as it extends into the shock body. With no reservoir, and a shock topped off with oil, it would be hydraulically locked, as the shock shaft could not move into the body. How much oil flows into the reservoir? what happens with gas pressure and the compression adjuster? for starters, I will assume the shock is moving *slowly*. My shock shaft is 14mm diameter. 1.54 sq cm sectional area- with 3" of shock travel, it will pump 11.7cc of oil into the reservoir at full bump. Nitrogen pressure will increase to about 228 psi under those conditions. At rest, the gas pressure contributes 18.8 lbs of force to extend the shock. at full bump, this increases to 21.4 lbs. with 300 psi of gas pressure, this would be 28.2 lbs and 32.1 lbs. At full bump the spring is exerting about 900+ lbs of force to extend the shock, so the effect of gas pressure as an aid to spring pressure is almost nil. I only considered the effect of gas pressure against the shaft, not the piston (piston/shim assy) as the shim stack has pressure exerted against it from both sides. But what about compression damping? That shock shaft displaces almost 12cc of oil, and it HAS to flow into the remote reservoir. This 12cc of oil passes through a small orifice, which is adjusted by the compression knob. Compare that to 96 cm3 which is swept by the shim stack assy. This oil will pass through the compression shim stack, and ends up on the other side of the shims. So on the surface, lets say that the compression damping is 90% controlled by the shim stack, and 10% controlled by the adjuster knob. However, it can be more complicated than that. I will refer to "swept oil" as swept by the piston/washer assy, and 'displaced oil' (or "rod oil") as displaced by the shock shaft. The compression adjuster is widely regarded to be a low speed adjustment. I could not understand this-- The compression adjuster usually selects one of several orifice sizes for the oil to pass through before it can enter (or leave) the reservoir, the smallest of which can be pretty damn tiny. This varies from shock to shock, so I'll stick with the 'pretty damn tiny' unit. Suppose the adjuster went all the way down to zero (no orifice). The shock would become hydraulically locked. Still think it has no effect on high speed compression? Your shock is partially 'cartridge' shock, and partially a conventional fixed- orifice shock. The adjuster selects a fixed orifice, thru which a small amount of oil MUST flow. At higher shock speeds, this fixed orifice can display all the bad behaviour of an 'old style' shock- sharply increasing resistance to motion with increased oil velocity. In fact, the higher the shock speed, the compression knob has more and more effect on damping. I am not able to do fluid dynamics, so I can not guess at the forces involved.. but imagine hitting a 3" rounded bump at 100 mph. The bump is 4" long (to the top). at 150 fps forward velocity, your shock will compress about 1.5 inches in 2.2 milliseconds. you will pump 5.8 cc of oil thru a (2mm?) hole in 2.2 mS. we're looking at oil moving at avg 2700+ fps thru that hole. hydraulic lock? too extreme? use a 5mm orifice and 50 mph. oil is moving at 440 fps thru that hole. does it matter? hey, I have no idea. enough of that. when bleeding the shock, with 40 psi in the bladder (depressing the shock suddenly to force air out of the washer stack) and the shock seal not yet installed, you can force the shock shaft into the body, and the oil level will drop, then rise again a moment later. This means that some of the 'swept' oil is blowing into the reservoir, and compressing the nitrogen bladder, then is forced out again a moment later by the gas pressure. (rather than ALL the swept oil flowing thru the shim stack) This at 40psi. At 200 psi, it the gas pressure will offer more resistance to 'swept' oil blowing in there temporarily, however, some swept oil will still flow thru the hose and into the reservoir, momentarily. So even more oil may be metered by the fixed orifice of the compression knob... Although at higher fluid velocities, the increasing restriction of that small hole may just mean that more and more of the oil is forced to go thru the shim stack. That is the case, as I found out. At low speeds, the compression valving flexes little or none. The shock moves displaced oil (rod oil) into the reservoir, but also PUMPS swept oil into the reservoir as well. so you may have 80% (just a random number) of the swept + displaced oil passing thru the compression adjuster orifice at low speeds. Therefore it is the main source of low speed compression resistance. At high speeds, the valving opens and swept oil passes through the compression shim stack. Little more than the displaced oil moves into the reservoir thru the compression orifice. So now we have 10+% of the total oil moved passing thru that orifice. There is proportionally less of the compression damping coming from the adjuster hole. However, the adjuster still provides a portion of the total compression damping, and the smaller the setting, the greater the proportion. Now I want to get back to what the computrack techs said about the compression adjuster altering rebound damping. The orifice on the adjuster controls not only how easily oil can flow INTO the reservoir, it also controls oil LEAVING the reservoir - and that is how it increases rebound damping. Turn your rebound and compression damping down as low as they go, and bounce your bike in back. Notice how it returns from the bump. Now increase compression at the knob, and continue bouncing. Notice how it rebounds. Keep increasing compression and at some point you will probably notice a sizable increase in rebound damping- the bike comes up more slowly- oil is having trouble flowing out of the reservoir, thru the small , adjustable 'compression' orifice. The compression adjuster orifice *does* create unwanted rebound damping. The number I got was approximately 20% of your rebound damping comes from the compression adjuster, unless there is extra valving/fluid path to allow rebound oil flow to bypass the compression adjuster's port. Different shocks will vary. It is generally a higher end feature, and the best shocks do not exhibit this "crossover" effect. If I were more clever I would modify my shock to do this- maybe a separate return oil path thru a one-way popoff valve. I guess the thing to do, with what little I know at the present, is to valve the shock so that you get the desired damping action while leaving the compression adjuster on the largest possible orifice size (lowest compression setting). And just be aware that everything interacts! Randy Norian

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